MISC/HCC: The Queen's Roast, a fairy-tale

Drew Perron pwerdna at gmail.com
Fri Jun 9 11:17:50 PDT 2017


On 6/6/2017 9:39 PM, Tom Russell wrote:
> On Tuesday, June 6, 2017 at 4:24:07 PM UTC-4, Drew Perron wrote:
<snip>
>> Fascinating. This framing is very, *very* traditional. I was wondering if you
>> were ultimately going to pull the rug out from under that.
 >
 > I kept the whole thing very much along traditional lines, even though the
 > "good king, bad queen" thing is, at least implicitly, a tad misogynistic. But
 > at the same time, the "bad mother" trope is so much more wrong and
 > transgressive than the "bad dad" trope.

It's true. I think I probably expected you to lean towards progressive 
storytelling over transgressive storytelling, since that is *really clearly* how 
I tend to lean. X3;

 > "Bad dad" (by which I mean "evil dad", not "weak or ineffectual dad") powers
 > only a couple of fairy tales - Donkey Skin* is the only one I can think of off
 > the top of my head - while "bad mom" (or step-mom) features in pretty much all
 > the major fairy tales (Cinderella, Hansel and Gretel, Snow White, etc) and
 > many of the minor ones (Juniper Tree is probably peak "bad mom").

*nods* For obvious reasons - after all, women aren't allowed to be mean - or 
have agency. (And I quite liked you playing with that in a traditional fairytale 
way.) Along the same lines, many of these have a saintly dead "real" mom.

Drew "running around getting things ready for a visitor but wanted to get this 
posted before the super busy weekend" Perron


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