LNH: Legion of Net.Heroes Volume 2 #51
pwerdna at gmail.com
Mon Jun 18 13:34:00 PDT 2012
On Mon, 18 Jun 2012 06:38:17 +0000 (UTC), Martin Phipps wrote:
> First of all, why is it offensive? Is it offensive because there is a
> character who is gay or because he is "stereotypically gay"? There
> are people like that. I meet people like that every day.
...you meet people who call themselves "The Flaming Torch" every day?
(Oh, another offensive aspect that wasn't touched upon: Equating feminine
clothing with homosexuality.)
> Please explain to me where the cheap shot was. If you are going to
> make accusations then you need to back them up. Kid Enthusiastic
> never backed down: he only conceded one point which I considered to be
> a tautology. (The Flaming Torch is no more offensive than Master
> Blaster, who I admit is sometimes a bit offensive. The Flaming Torch
> is actually a lot less offensive if you really think about it.)
The point is, others *don't* consider it a tautology. You put words in the
mouth of the character who's most associated with me specifically to rebut
something I said.
> Nonsense. People write stories and other people write stories. No
> one story discounts another.
...except that we're working in a shared universe, where "continuity" is a
thing. Now, we can play around with that for comic effect or just for the
sake of changing things, but we do need to acknowledge it.
> There was no "refusal" involved. The fact is that Drizzt came up with
> this idea of parodying the legacy virus and I made Squidman one of the
> victims and then Dave wrote a story in which he came back. That's
So what you're saying is, you didn't even ask for permission.
> I asked for permission to use Omega characters. They said no. So
> then I got the idea of using similar LNH characters in their place. I
> should have made it clear that was what I was doing.
...didn't you use the characters without permission and only switch to
LNH-ified versions after people objected?
> Anyway, these things go back YEARS and yet you are accusing me of
> holding grudges?
Well, this is a pattern of behavior. You keep doing this stuff, is the
> Again, what are you talking about? How did I sabotage the LNH20
You got into an enormous argument with Arthur when he didn't want to do
things your way, driving him away and almost scuttling the project overall.
> What you don't seem to notice is that I ALWAYS respond in a reasonable
> manner. This IS me responding in a reasonable manner. I am
> responding to completely baseless accusations and I am responding
...I'm sorry, but I don't find anything that you've written here
reasonable. You're ignoring other people's viewpoints, and insisting that
your actions and your interpretations of events are the only correct ones.
> So can you. Your basic argument is that there is something wrong with
> me for being "reasonable" as you yourself say and presumably it is
> alright for you to be completely unreasonable.
The argument is: You're acting like a jerk, for all the reasons above. You
need to stop.
Andrew "NO .SIG MAN" "Juan" Perron, sincerely angry.
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