LNH: Help!

Martin Phipps martinphipps2 at yahoo.com
Sun Oct 30 16:51:38 PDT 2011

On Oct 30, 10:12 am, Andrew Perron <pwer... at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 30 Oct 2011 06:42:14 +0000 (UTC), Martin Phipps wrote:
> > The first twenty should be established LNH characters.
> This is the thing I'm not sure about.  I really think we should have a
> significant number of new characters in the starting lineup - well, either
> that, or obscure/secondary characters given more prominent roles.
> > I've already dropped the idea of including Bad Timing Boy, Sarcastic
> > Lad, Coward Lad, Super Apathy Lad and Cheesecake Eater Lad.  None of
> > these characters seem appropriate for a rebooted LNH.
> ...why not?

Well, for one thing, we're being asked to pick and choose characters.
If there wasn't any restriction to keep the size of the LNH down then
there wouldn't be a question of which characters were "the most
suitable" in the first place.

> > Ask any of them if they want to join the LNH and they'll all say no*.
> ...why?  Just because they have seemingly useless powers?  That's part of
> the LNH tradition!  Definitely something we want to keep!
> > Hmm.  Actually, Bad Timing Boy, Sarcastic Lad, Coward Lad, Super
> > Apathy Lad and Cheesecake Eater Lad might be interesting characters
> > for an LNH Rejects one shot that is part of the LNH2012 imprint but
> > isn't part of the storyline re-introducing the LNH: a one shot
> > establishing that other LNH characters exist in the LNH2012 universe
> > even if they didn't become LNHers.
> That's not a bad idea!
> > Anyway, the point is people should be able to do what they want.  If
> > people want to add their own characters then we'll have more than
> > twenty LNHers but I think we should start with twenty established LNH
> > characters and have that as a nucleus around which new characters (or
> > new versions of old characters) can join.
> Again, I don't think the nucleus needs to be composed of established
> characters.  Just strong ones.

I think that if we create new characters then it should be in addition
to twenty established characters because we end up with even more of a
restriction on which established characters we can use.  Also, if this
is to be a group effort, it becomes harder to include characters that
are not already established: I remember in previous collaborative LNH
efforts there was always somebody complaining that we weren't using
his character right even though the character was fairly new and
relatively unestablished.  Finally, as an introduction to the LNH, it
works better if we use established characters: we would expect there
to be different characters in the LNH and LNH2012 but the core would
be the same.  (Eventually we would want to re-introduce Ultimate
Ninja, Captain Continuity, etc.  This is also a good reason for
introducing Kid Kirby now and not waiting for Jameel to come back.)
Compare with DC's Justice League after Crisis: they started with
established characters and added new characters later even though in a
new universe you might have expected all new characters to start with.


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