ietf-nntp HDR

[Clive D.W. Feather]

Ade Lovett said:
>> XHDR was not linked to overview in most implementations, only in some.
>> don't see a reason to unnecessarily limit HDR compared XHDR.
> Well, welcome to the Real World [tm] outside of Usenet Academia.  Sorry, but
> I'm not going to listen to those that have absolutely no comprehension of
> even the tiniest part of scaling.  You want HDR to work outside over
> "overview" headers, cool.  It ain't happening.  Deal with it.

Oh no ?

telnet news.demon.co.uk 119
Trying 158.152.254.74...
Connected to news.news.demon.net.
Escape character is '^]'.
200 news.demon.co.uk NewsBorg [nnrp-10]
GROUP demon.service
211 1155 133924 135078 demon.service group selected
LIST OVERVIEW.FMT
215 overview format follows
Subject:
From:
Date:
Message-ID:
References:
Bytes:
Lines:
Xref:full
.
XOVER 135000
224 overview data follows [135000-135000]
135000  Re: Mail Delays?        The Natural Philosopher <Nowhere at there.org>
  Sun, 06 Jan 2002 16:07:48 +0000  <3C387654.7994EC06 at there.org>
<B858F9CE.32CC%martin at usenet.idea-digital.com>
<B8590291.32F5%martin at usenet.idea-digital.com>
<20020102.1933.60111snz at zhochaka.demon.co.uk>
<B8594CB5.345D%martin at usenet.idea-digital.com>
<20020103.0852.60128snz at zhochaka.demon.co.uk>       1663   22       Xref:
news.demon.co.uk demon.service:135000
.
XHDR X-Trace 135000
221 X-Trace headers follow [135000-135000]
135000 news.demon.co.uk 1010332562 nnrp-12:22140 NO-IDENT
maeve.demon.co.uk:193.237.42.62
.
QUIT
205 goodbye
Connection closed by foreign host.

Now isn't that strange ? Ade Lovett's news server doesn't put X-Trace in
the overview but XHDR returns it.

>> This would no longer represent a standardization of XHDR, however.
> In the standards world, an X-command is effectively undefined.  It cannot
> therefor be standardized, rendering your point moot.

Oh yes it can, just not under that name. But you knew that.

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