ietf-nntp Re: WG Review: Simple Authentication and Security Layer (sasl)

Ken Murchison ken at oceana.com
Tue Dec 24 06:04:22 PST 2002


Charles Lindsey wrote:
> 
> In <37717585.1040386848 at majormajor.rem.cmu.edu> Lawrence Greenfield <leg+ at andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
> 
> >Defining a new SASL mechanism that does some sort of ADH will in fact
> >increase the per-connection cost, since it will be unable to utilize
> >session resumption. (Not to mention that TLS can be hardened against MITM
> >attacks by distributing the appropriate certificates.)
> 
> Indeed so. It might take a second or so at the start of a session.
> 
> >The only reason to fear TLS is if encryption of the data stream is viewed
> >as too costly.
> 
> And that is the problem. Once a session is established, the systems may
> exchange data for hours at seriously high transfer rates. The encryption
> overhead would cripple it.

You didn't address Larry's idea of downgrading the cipher, probably to
"none" or "null".  Would this be acceptable?  I could probably do a
proof of concept in the Cyrus server.

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