ietf-nntp Re: WG Review: Simple Authentication and Security Layer (sasl)

Charles Lindsey chl at clw.cs.man.ac.uk
Tue Dec 10 06:23:57 PST 2002


In <3DF543E7.15FD9034 at oceana.com> Ken Murchison <ken at oceana.com> writes:

>Yes, this is a well known problem with infrastrctures which are based
>around a plaintext methodology.  I guess your alternatives are to switch
>to something like Kereberos or try resurrecting Newman's DSS effort (or
>something similar) ietf-sasl.  If the WG likes the idea, I'll volunteer
>to write the plugin for CMU SASL.

Then why are we basing anything around a plaintext methodology? My
ignorance of SASL is profound, but I had always assumed that it
incorporated a mechanism whereby the server could confirm that the client
knew a secret without actually passing that secret in plaintext. Surely
that is the fundamental problem. How the server associates (its version
of) the secret with the client is a separate issue. Maybe it stores it
itself (it should know who its paying customers are) or maybe it
outsources it, but why should NNTP care about that part of it?

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