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Lee Kindness
lkindness at csl.co.uk
Tue Dec 11 01:59:19 PST 2001
Stan, this came through corrupt with the 'Subject' and 'Mime-Version'
headers concatenated. Any chance of sending it again in a format
everyone can read (i.e. plain text in the message body)?
Complete message quoted so you can see what i'm talking about...
Regards, Lee Kindness.
Stan O. Barber writes:
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> Here is the consensus ballot I will be passing out later today at IETF 52. If
> you want to participate in this consensus exercise, then copy this mail into a
> message to "voting at academ.houston.tx.us" between 1615CST today (12/11/2001) and
> 1615CST tomorrow (12/12/2001).
>
> Since you can't circle easily in email, just erase the word that does NOT
> express you feelings. That means if you AGREE, then remove DISAGREE and vice
> versa. You can ignore item 1.
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> As for comments about what you disagree with, put that at the end of your email
> or send a message about it to the list.
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> I will publish the results of this process over this weekend.
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> <p class=3DMsoNormal>All votes here are relative to <span=
> style=3D'font-family:
> "Courier New"'>draft-ietf-nntp-base-14.txt</span>. If you have not read this
> document, please don't participate in this vote. You will have opportunities=
> to
> participate in the next one.</p>
>
> <p class=3DMsoNormal><![if=
> !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p></p>
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> <p class=3DMsoNormal>1. Please write your email address=
> here:____________________________</p>
>
> <p class=3DMsoNormal><![if=
> !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p></p>
>
> <p class=3DMsoNormal>Do you want to be added to the WG mailing list?<span
> style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">=A0 </span>YES NO (circle one) </p>
>
> <p class=3DMsoNormal><![if=
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> <p class=3DMsoNormal>2. Streaming in the base NNTP specification. Clive=
> Feather
> has suggested that the following text be added as part of the base spec. He=
> has
> suggested that it go in section 4. </p>
>
> <pre><span style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">=A0</span></pre><pre><span=
> style=3D'font-family:
> "Arial Narrow"'>4.X Streaming<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span
> style=3D'font-family:"Arial Narrow"'><![if=
> !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span
> style=3D'font-family:"Arial Narrow"'>NNTP is designed to operate over a=
> reliable bi-directional connection such as TCP. Therefore, if a command=
> does not depend on the response to the previous one, it should not matter=
> if it is sent before that response is received. Doing this is called=
> "streaming". However, certain server implementations throw away=
> all text received from the client following certain commands before sending=
> their response. If this happens, streaming will be affected because one or=
> more commands will have been ignored or misinterpreted, and the client will=
> be matching the wrong responses to each=
> command.<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span
> style=3D'font-family:"Arial Narrow"'><![if=
> !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span
> style=3D'font-family:"Arial Narrow"'>Since there are significant benefits to=
> streaming, but also circumstances where it is reasonable or common for=
> servers to behave in the above manner, this document puts certain=
> requirements on both clients and servers.<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span
> style=3D'font-family:"Arial Narrow"'><![if=
> !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span
> style=3D'font-family:"Arial Narrow"'>Except where stated otherwise, a client=
> MAY use streaming. That is, it may send a command before receiving the=
> response for the previous command. The server MUST allow streaming and MUST=
> NOT throw away any text received after a=
> command.<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span
> style=3D'font-family:"Arial Narrow"'><![if=
> !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span
> style=3D'font-family:"Arial Narrow"'>If the specific description of a=
> command describes it as "not streamable", that command MUST end=
> any stream of commands. That is, the client MUST NOT send any following=
> command until receiving the CRLF at the end of the response from the=
> command. The server MAY ignore any data received after the command and=
> before the CRLF at the end of the response is sent to the=
> client.<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span
> style=3D'font-family:"Arial Narrow"'><![if=
> !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span
> style=3D'font-family:"Arial Narrow"'>The initial connection must not be part=
> of a stream; that is, the client MUST NOT send any command until receiving=
> the CRLF at the end of the greeting.<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span
> style=3D'font-family:"Arial Narrow"'><![if=
> !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span
> style=3D'font-family:"Arial Narrow"'>If the client uses blocking system=
> calls to send commands, it MUST ensure that the amount of text sent in=
> streaming does not cause a deadlock between transmission and reception. The=
> amount of text involved will depend on window sizes in the transmission=
> layer, and is typically 4k bytes for TCP.<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span
> style=3D'font-family:"Arial Narrow"'><![if=
> !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span
> style=3D'font-family:"Arial Narrow"'><![if=
> !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><b><span
> style=3D'font-family:"Times New Roman"'>AGREE<span style=3D"mso-spacerun:=
> yes">=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=
> =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=
> =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=
> =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=
> </span>DISAGREE<o:p></o:p></span></b></pre><pre><b><span
> style=3D'font-family:"Times New Roman"'><![if=
> !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p></span></b></pre><pre><b><sp=
> an
> style=3D'font-family:"Times New Roman"'>3. Streaming part 2. If there is=
> agreement on adding the steaming above, then some command descriptions=
> should be modified to indicate that they are =93not streamable.=94 For each=
> of the following indicate if you agree or disagree if they should be =93not=
> streamable=94.<o:p></o:p></span></b></pre><pre><b><span
> style=3D'font-family:"Times New Roman"'><![if=
> !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p></span></b></pre><pre><b><sp=
> an
> style=3D'font-family:"Times New Roman"'>LIST EXTENSIONS<span=
> style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=
> =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 </span>AGREE<span style=3D"mso-spacerun:=
> yes">=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=
> =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 </span>DISAGREE<o:p></o:p></span></b></pre><pre><b><span
> style=3D'font-family:"Times New Roman"'>QUIT<span style=3D"mso-spacerun:=
> yes">=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=
> =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=
> =A0 </span>AGREE<span style=3D"mso-spacerun:=
> yes">=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=
> =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=
> </span>DISAGREE<o:p></o:p></span></b></pre><pre><b><span
> style=3D'font-family:"Times New Roman"'>MODE READER<span=
> style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=
> =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 </span>AGREE<span=
> style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=
> =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=
> </span>DISAGREE<o:p></o:p></span></b></pre><pre><b><span
> style=3D'font-family:"Times New Roman"'>POST<span style=3D"mso-spacerun:=
> yes">=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=
> =A0 </span><span style=3D"mso-spacerun:=
> yes">=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=
> =A0=A0</span>AGREE<span style=3D"mso-spacerun:=
> yes">=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=
> =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=
> </span>DISAGREE<o:p></o:p></span></b></pre><pre><b><span
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